Comments on: Picture what? http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:23:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: joe http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-25941 joe Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:43:33 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-25941 this is why photography is an art - everyone judges differently, but there are artistic principles & virtues that develop over time, and personally i think they should be respected or referenced to every now and then. art is not for hermits, it's for getting what you wanna express across, even documentary very nice read, thanks for writing =] cheers this is why photography is an art - everyone judges differently, but there are artistic principles & virtues that develop over time, and personally i think they should be respected or referenced to every now and then. art is not for hermits, it’s for getting what you wanna express across, even documentary

very nice read, thanks for writing =]

cheers

]]> By: Arty Smokes http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-18672 Arty Smokes Sat, 17 May 2008 22:06:05 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-18672 So I just came across http://www.elizabethgordon.org.uk/ Hmmm. Now I understand why you were so pissed off that she won. While I freely admit that - were she a contact of mine on Flickr - I'd probably favouritize a couple of her shots, as I like the gritty realism, you are completely correct about her general lack of ability. It beggars belief that she can be "best new digi photographer in Britain" when I see better shots than hers every half an hour on flickr, and some of my own discarded snapsshots are more interesting than stuff she's exhibited. Maybe she makes up in personality what she lacks in artistic skill, but I'd be very surprised if we hear from her again. So I just came across http://www.elizabethgordon.org.uk/

Hmmm. Now I understand why you were so pissed off that she won. While I freely admit that - were she a contact of mine on Flickr - I’d probably favouritize a couple of her shots, as I like the gritty realism, you are completely correct about her general lack of ability. It beggars belief that she can be “best new digi photographer in Britain” when I see better shots than hers every half an hour on flickr, and some of my own discarded snapsshots are more interesting than stuff she’s exhibited. Maybe she makes up in personality what she lacks in artistic skill, but I’d be very surprised if we hear from her again.

]]> By: Elinesca http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-18135 Elinesca Mon, 05 May 2008 22:20:11 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-18135 I have to agree, the Picture This show was disappointing in every respect. The winners photos aren't strong in any sense at all, they're just as self indulgent snaps of alcoholism as any self indulgent snaps of beauty would be. So I find it rather appalling that a major cultural photography icon would try to calm the criticism towards this tv program failure by using the words "you're an attractive woman and therefore your images look good". I don't think Aniela is trying to position herself as playing on being an attractive woman. There are may interesting shots in her stream, and beauty is the last thing on my mind when I see them. However, if you're defining beautiful narrowly as "slim" or "nude", then by all means, have a ball with it. I wish the winner of Picture This all the success in the world and I don't think anybody wants to take away the fact that she's got enthusiasm etc, which we all do, by the way. But the rather ridiculous photographic result of her subject matter is hard not to laugh of, especially the "portraits" of shoe wear worn by recovered female alcoholics included in her show. Anybody can have a hard time with the cards life deals them. Few can turn it into something meaningful that doesn't feel like a worn out cliche. I have to agree, the Picture This show was disappointing in every respect. The winners photos aren’t strong in any sense at all, they’re just as self indulgent snaps of alcoholism as any self indulgent snaps of beauty would be.

So I find it rather appalling that a major cultural photography icon would try to calm the criticism towards this tv program failure by using the words “you’re an attractive woman and therefore your images look good”.

I don’t think Aniela is trying to position herself as playing on being an attractive woman. There are may interesting shots in her stream, and beauty is the last thing on my mind when I see them. However, if you’re defining beautiful narrowly as “slim” or “nude”, then by all means, have a ball with it.

I wish the winner of Picture This all the success in the world and I don’t think anybody wants to take away the fact that she’s got enthusiasm etc, which we all do, by the way.

But the rather ridiculous photographic result of her subject matter is hard not to laugh of, especially the “portraits” of shoe wear worn by recovered female alcoholics included in her show.

Anybody can have a hard time with the cards life deals them.

Few can turn it into something meaningful that doesn’t feel like a worn out cliche.

]]> By: Matteus http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-16632 Matteus Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:41:34 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-16632 sorry about the multi-entry, download got logg-jammed sorry about the multi-entry, download got logg-jammed

]]> By: Matteus http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-16601 Matteus Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:33:31 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-16601 Dear Miss, Love your work. By the by, considering the travesty television spectacle you've been discussing and their limited agenda. Are they lobotomized? Or do they voluntarily suspend belief wholly during their waking hours? Since Daguerre packed up his plates, when has a photographic image been limited to no manipulation? (What do they imagine, an in-camera result only on a single print-paper grade, only?) I'm not sure why there is even a discussion about Photoshop use considering the fact that photo labs, processors by nature, have been push/pulling the negs and salvaging/manipulating the prints of film photographers forever. I personally grew up on film working in pro labs, and think digital is liberating and totally ace. It sure doesn't smell as nice though. MJR PS. I must say your photography/image making is awesome, however it is done. Dear Miss,

Love your work. By the by, considering the travesty television spectacle you’ve been discussing and their limited agenda. Are they lobotomized? Or do they voluntarily suspend belief wholly during their waking hours? Since Daguerre packed up his plates, when has a photographic image been limited to no manipulation? (What do they imagine, an in-camera result only on a single print-paper grade, only?) I’m not sure why there is even a discussion about Photoshop use considering the fact that photo labs, processors by nature, have been push/pulling the negs and salvaging/manipulating the prints of film photographers forever. I personally grew up on film working in pro labs, and think digital is liberating and totally ace. It sure doesn’t smell as nice though.

MJR

PS. I must say your photography/image making is awesome, however it is done.

]]> By: Matteus http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-16586 Matteus Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:07:30 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-16586 Dear Miss, Love your work. By the by, considering the travesty television spectacle you've been discussing and their limited agenda. Are they lobotomized? Or do they voluntarily suspend disbelief wholly during their waking hours? Since Daguerre packed up his plates, when has a photographic image been limited to no manipulation? (What do they imagine, an in-camera result only on a single print-paper grade?) I'm not sure why there is even a discussion about Photoshop use considering the fact that photo labs, processors by nature, have been push/pulling the negs and salvaging/manipulating the prints of film photographers forever. I personally grew up on film working in pro labs, and think digital is liberating and totally ace. It sure doesn't smell as nice though. MJR PS. I must say your photography/image making is awesome, however it is done. Dear Miss,

Love your work. By the by, considering the travesty television spectacle you’ve been discussing and their limited agenda. Are they lobotomized? Or do they voluntarily suspend disbelief wholly during their waking hours? Since Daguerre packed up his plates, when has a photographic image been limited to no manipulation? (What do they imagine, an in-camera result only on a single print-paper grade?) I’m not sure why there is even a discussion about Photoshop use considering the fact that photo labs, processors by nature, have been push/pulling the negs and salvaging/manipulating the prints of film photographers forever. I personally grew up on film working in pro labs, and think digital is liberating and totally ace. It sure doesn’t smell as nice though.

MJR

PS. I must say your photography/image making is awesome, however it is done.

]]> By: Bobby http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-16105 Bobby Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:14:06 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-16105 It really is a beautiful sight. The colors are just smashing. It really is a beautiful sight. The colors are just smashing.

]]> By: PiXistenZ http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-15984 PiXistenZ Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:35:03 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-15984 Most interesting thread! Miss Aniela: are you sure it's the real Martin Parr who's posting here? Could easily be faked of course. Most interesting thread!

Miss Aniela: are you sure it’s the real Martin Parr who’s posting here? Could easily be faked of course.

]]> By: Craig @ id7.co.uk http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-15948 Craig @ id7.co.uk Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:47:28 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-15948 Aniela An interesting debate, but one that will never be settled I guess until people realise that a darkroom, a diffusion filter, chemicals, paper, bleach and a brush create an image of the same subjective quality and finish, as a memory card, laptop, photoshop and an inkjet printer. Both types of images are 'valid' because all images are subjective, and whos to say what makes a photo good?, who knows?. Who can actually sit on a pedestal and dictate that. There are basics in composition / tonality / subject and lighting that we as photographers can apply but equally some opposites to the rules work also especially when good photography is in the eye of the beholder. I saw the programme, and to be honest hadn't really bothered to make an opinion of the content, because what I was watching were people 'having a go'. Fair enough we are all critics and thats what gives photography some energy and spirit. The pictures may not have been all that great to us, but to those people they meant something. I concur that the best image makers were culled early on because of their experience (or at least thats how it seemed), and the likely outcome (by the sheer fact that FlickR were sponsors) would mean that more mainstream / pro-am type images would shine through, and yes with a narrative of some kind (something hip and mainstream like alcoholism??!).... To that end if you blog yourself you will realise that all of us are different and see things in a totally different way, and people comment on your posted work, dependant upon their mood at the time, the social climate, the context of the image, and whether they just plain like something they see.... its all subjective. Excellent self portrait work, I am in awe... over here from a link to Northlainephotography.com. csj @ id7.co.uk - www.id7.co.uk Aniela
An interesting debate, but one that will never be settled I guess until people realise that a darkroom, a diffusion filter, chemicals, paper, bleach and a brush create an image of the same subjective quality and finish, as a memory card, laptop, photoshop and an inkjet printer. Both types of images are ‘valid’ because all images are subjective, and whos to say what makes a photo good?, who knows?. Who can actually sit on a pedestal and dictate that. There are basics in composition / tonality / subject and lighting that we as photographers can apply but equally some opposites to the rules work also especially when good photography is in the eye of the beholder. I saw the programme, and to be honest hadn’t really bothered to make an opinion of the content, because what I was watching were people ‘having a go’. Fair enough we are all critics and thats what gives photography some energy and spirit. The pictures may not have been all that great to us, but to those people they meant something. I concur that the best image makers were culled early on because of their experience (or at least thats how it seemed), and the likely outcome (by the sheer fact that FlickR were sponsors) would mean that more mainstream / pro-am type images would shine through, and yes with a narrative of some kind (something hip and mainstream like alcoholism??!)…. To that end if you blog yourself you will realise that all of us are different and see things in a totally different way, and people comment on your posted work, dependant upon their mood at the time, the social climate, the context of the image, and whether they just plain like something they see…. its all subjective.

Excellent self portrait work, I am in awe… over here from a link to Northlainephotography.com.

csj @ id7.co.uk - http://www.id7.co.uk

]]> By: Elisabet http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what#comment-15832 Elisabet Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:56:27 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/01/21/picture-what/#comment-15832 Hello Aniela, I love your pictures and your blog seems interesting, but the small print size you use makes it hard to read... Just wanted to give some feedback. Hello Aniela,

I love your pictures and your blog seems interesting, but the small print size you use makes it hard to read…

Just wanted to give some feedback.

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