Comments on: Top early Flickr inspirations (part 2) http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:49:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: photonovice.net » Blog Archive » Inspiration or Trend? http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-20269 photonovice.net » Blog Archive » Inspiration or Trend? Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:15:38 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-20269 [...] from finding my own article I found - to my surprise - Miss Aniela’s blog and specifically a post she wrote about Flickr photographers who inspired her. And yes, Rebekka was one of [...] [...] from finding my own article I found - to my surprise - Miss Aniela’s blog and specifically a post she wrote about Flickr photographers who inspired her. And yes, Rebekka was one of [...]

]]> By: Arty Smokes http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-17208 Arty Smokes Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:22:11 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-17208 P.S. My drowning photo went completely wrong. I wanted to pose as a corpse, but when I left the bathroom to fetch my fags, my camera committed suicide by jumping in the bath! It's a good job I can see the ironic humour in this, as I could quite easily be distraught by such an occurrence. It also gives me an excuse to buy a new camera. Yippee! P.S. My drowning photo went completely wrong. I wanted to pose as a corpse, but when I left the bathroom to fetch my fags, my camera committed suicide by jumping in the bath! It’s a good job I can see the ironic humour in this, as I could quite easily be distraught by such an occurrence. It also gives me an excuse to buy a new camera. Yippee!

]]> By: Arty Smokes http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-17206 Arty Smokes Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:47:13 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-17206 Thanks very much for the answer about "different clones". I think I get the gist of what you mean, so I won't be suggesting that idea again. :) I can't claim responsibility for the term "Suicide Girls". It's an Internet phenomenon I thought most young people were aware of, but it seems it's passed you by. There is a website at http://suicidegirls.com/ that acts as a modelling agency for girls with tattoos and piercings, and it has been highly influential in youth culture, with many competing sites that make a vast amount of money. It started as a way for "unconventional" young models to get their 15 minutes of fame, with "female empowerment" touted as the driving force, but it turned out that the owner is a redneck porno guy who saw a gap in the market. Many girls left and set up their own sites amid claims of not being paid for their work. Some of the models are truly stunning, and the photoshoots are often lavish and artistic affairs, allowing girls who were bullied at school to finally feel "beautiful", but I have many misgivings about the site. Firstly, I don't find tattoos and piercings at all attractive, but my main issue is that the undercurrent is just basic pornography, exploiting women's desire to be judged on the size and shape of their tits n' ass. The "Lolita"-look, which I have such a problem with, is also widespread on the SG site. I don't actually have a major problem with art that references the themes of death or suicide. Indeed, I like art that does that. I'm planning on doing a "drowning in the bath" photo tonight. It's just that the Suicide Girls and their amateur copyists seem to glamourize death and destruction as something to aspire to. I'm sure that many of the SGs are perfectly aware of the contradictions they are caught up in and are thoroughly decent people just trying to make ends meet, but overall I think the message they send out is quite retrogressive. As someone put it, it's just porn for goths. Calling themselves "post-feminists" (whatever that means) doesn't help anyone. Showing off your fanny to some guy in Texas doesn't bring about equal pay for female office workers, does it? Oops! I see I have gone on a rant again. I look forward to the 3rd installment (although my contacts list is quickly getting too large for me to give my favourites the time they deserve). I've actually come to regard DrJoanne - from your previous list - as my favourite artist on flickr. She's just so creative and witty. If you can recommend anyone half as good as her, I'll be delighted. Take care, Arty x Thanks very much for the answer about “different clones”. I think I get the gist of what you mean, so I won’t be suggesting that idea again. :)
I can’t claim responsibility for the term “Suicide Girls”. It’s an Internet phenomenon I thought most young people were aware of, but it seems it’s passed you by. There is a website at http://suicidegirls.com/ that acts as a modelling agency for girls with tattoos and piercings, and it has been highly influential in youth culture, with many competing sites that make a vast amount of money.
It started as a way for “unconventional” young models to get their 15 minutes of fame, with “female empowerment” touted as the driving force, but it turned out that the owner is a redneck porno guy who saw a gap in the market. Many girls left and set up their own sites amid claims of not being paid for their work.
Some of the models are truly stunning, and the photoshoots are often lavish and artistic affairs, allowing girls who were bullied at school to finally feel “beautiful”, but I have many misgivings about the site. Firstly, I don’t find tattoos and piercings at all attractive, but my main issue is that the undercurrent is just basic pornography, exploiting women’s desire to be judged on the size and shape of their tits n’ ass. The “Lolita”-look, which I have such a problem with, is also widespread on the SG site.

I don’t actually have a major problem with art that references the themes of death or suicide. Indeed, I like art that does that. I’m planning on doing a “drowning in the bath” photo tonight. It’s just that the Suicide Girls and their amateur copyists seem to glamourize death and destruction as something to aspire to.
I’m sure that many of the SGs are perfectly aware of the contradictions they are caught up in and are thoroughly decent people just trying to make ends meet, but overall I think the message they send out is quite retrogressive. As someone put it, it’s just porn for goths. Calling themselves “post-feminists” (whatever that means) doesn’t help anyone. Showing off your fanny to some guy in Texas doesn’t bring about equal pay for female office workers, does it?

Oops! I see I have gone on a rant again.

I look forward to the 3rd installment (although my contacts list is quickly getting too large for me to give my favourites the time they deserve). I’ve actually come to regard DrJoanne - from your previous list - as my favourite artist on flickr. She’s just so creative and witty. If you can recommend anyone half as good as her, I’ll be delighted.

Take care, Arty x

]]> By: Miss Aniela http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-17201 Miss Aniela Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:40:37 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-17201 @ Lucy - thanks for popping along! glad u enjoyed the work of these people. x @ Arty I chose to put Solea at the top because I remember being so enthralled by her landscape work and going out with my camera feeling so excited and reinvigorated, just by photography itself, after looking at her work. Her work has always been very different from mine in style, her portraits are mostly sensual, wispy feminine images - she has a particular way of using brightness and less contrast to give a more delicate feel. But because these rundowns are all about 'inspirations', I took care to choose the artists who have made me feel different about photography regardless of whether or not I go off and produce something that's similiar to their work ... well of course I'm flattered that you don't think I have produced something similar... it's the joy that looking at a person's work and feeling the spurt of energy to go out and do something with my own camera that is important.. I'd say the main difference between my clones and Rebekka's is that I am more concerned with visual symphonies of colour and composition.. that's why I never switch clothes between clones (which people have always suggested to me). Her work is based more on concept, a photographic magician's tromp d'oeil, whereas I am more concerned with making sure the colours of the clones pop pleasingly at correlating parts of the image. I don't know if that makes sense to anyone. Her most recent clone image, titled something like 'We were just sitting here talking' demonstrates what I mean. The two clones are differently dressed and with different hair colours, I would not be interesting in doing something like this because to my eye the image would look like it's leaking at the sides, dissembled... unpackaged, 'unribboned'... (maybe a stream of consciousness there will help proffer understanding of my obscure point) Those words are not meant negatively of her work and not to detract from my general admiration for all of her portfolio. Good term 'suicide girls'... haha, i've never been so much of a fan of those kind of images, though I did do one once where i was laying in the bath threatening to be dead, giving some dialogue about my mum and sister who had complained earlier about my dirty knickers in the tub. And I suppose 'The pool of tears' (an image I did) is kind of deathly, and then you've got 'The deaths', which is, erm, blatantly deathly... but I prefer a colourful sanitised version of 'death', as if to show i'm not literally talking about death but a symbol of ending, peace, or tranquility.. or a commemoration of dead loved ones, or a question or exploration of the frightening mystical quality of it... maybe I am into death then. Lol. But I'm not keen on those female SPs with the heavy eye make up and angel wing thing going on. Yeah I like jaime, I'm trying to find out about prints that she has available but i'm not having much luck. Thanks for your comment and i hope you will find the artists in the 3rd installment equally interesting. @ Lucy - thanks for popping along! glad u enjoyed the work of these people. x

@ Arty
I chose to put Solea at the top because I remember being so enthralled by her landscape work and going out with my camera feeling so excited and reinvigorated, just by photography itself, after looking at her work.
Her work has always been very different from mine in style, her portraits are mostly sensual, wispy feminine images - she has a particular way of using brightness and less contrast to give a more delicate feel.
But because these rundowns are all about ‘inspirations’, I took care to choose the artists who have made me feel different about photography regardless of whether or not I go off and produce something that’s similiar to their work … well of course I’m flattered that you don’t think I have produced something similar… it’s the joy that looking at a person’s work and feeling the spurt of energy to go out and do something with my own camera that is important..

I’d say the main difference between my clones and Rebekka’s is that I am more concerned with visual symphonies of colour and composition.. that’s why I never switch clothes between clones (which people have always suggested to me). Her work is based more on concept, a photographic magician’s tromp d’oeil, whereas I am more concerned with making sure the colours of the clones pop pleasingly at correlating parts of the image. I don’t know if that makes sense to anyone. Her most recent clone image, titled something like ‘We were just sitting here talking’ demonstrates what I mean. The two clones are differently dressed and with different hair colours, I would not be interesting in doing something like this because to my eye the image would look like it’s leaking at the sides, dissembled… unpackaged, ‘unribboned’… (maybe a stream of consciousness there will help proffer understanding of my obscure point)
Those words are not meant negatively of her work and not to detract from my general admiration for all of her portfolio.

Good term ’suicide girls’… haha, i’ve never been so much of a fan of those kind of images, though I did do one once where i was laying in the bath threatening to be dead, giving some dialogue about my mum and sister who had complained earlier about my dirty knickers in the tub. And I suppose ‘The pool of tears’ (an image I did) is kind of deathly, and then you’ve got ‘The deaths’, which is, erm, blatantly deathly… but I prefer a colourful sanitised version of ‘death’, as if to show i’m not literally talking about death but a symbol of ending, peace, or tranquility.. or a commemoration of dead loved ones, or a question or exploration of the frightening mystical quality of it… maybe I am into death then. Lol. But I’m not keen on those female SPs with the heavy eye make up and angel wing thing going on.

Yeah I like jaime, I’m trying to find out about prints that she has available but i’m not having much luck.

Thanks for your comment and i hope you will find the artists in the 3rd installment equally interesting.

]]> By: Arty Smokes http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-17052 Arty Smokes Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:43:38 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-17052 I'm surprised at your number 1. I don't really see any correlation between Carmen's work and yours, at least no in the few examples I've checked. Rebekka is obviously fantastic and her range is indeed very wide. She appeals to so many different tastes. I think many of your clones are as good as if not better than the her best, so it's great that you've thanked her for inspiration. The two Laras have a bit of a goth thing going on, which I can find stunning and ridiculous in equal measure. The quality of their work, however, raises it well above the "Suicide Girls" chic that has proliferated all too widely across the internet. Lara Swift especially has created some remarkable images of late, so I've added her as a contact. Jaime is probably the most interesting of the lot for me. Some of the shots are more "womanly" than I've seen you do, and I'll certainly be investigating her work further. Thanks once more for giving credit where it's due and for posting links to such fascinating art. I’m surprised at your number 1. I don’t really see any correlation between Carmen’s work and yours, at least no in the few examples I’ve checked.
Rebekka is obviously fantastic and her range is indeed very wide. She appeals to so many different tastes. I think many of your clones are as good as if not better than the her best, so it’s great that you’ve thanked her for inspiration.
The two Laras have a bit of a goth thing going on, which I can find stunning and ridiculous in equal measure. The quality of their work, however, raises it well above the “Suicide Girls” chic that has proliferated all too widely across the internet. Lara Swift especially has created some remarkable images of late, so I’ve added her as a contact.
Jaime is probably the most interesting of the lot for me. Some of the shots are more “womanly” than I’ve seen you do, and I’ll certainly be investigating her work further.

Thanks once more for giving credit where it’s due and for posting links to such fascinating art.

]]> By: Lucy (~Solarina) http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2#comment-17046 Lucy (~Solarina) Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:09:53 +0000 http://missaniela.com/blog/2008/03/27/top-early-flickr-inspirations-part-2/#comment-17046 Great list, you set me off in a flurry of adding and faving :) Im really interested to see your current top 5! Great list, you set me off in a flurry of adding and faving :)

Im really interested to see your current top 5!

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